drsnoid's mail2news results 03-November-08

[drsnoid]

[News]
112 total routes, 82 of them good. A 73.21% overall success rate.

The nightmix remailer removed from the results as it is middle.
The cyberiad, hastio, and metacolo remailers down at time of testing.
Marked as BAD.
The demon mail2news removed from the results. It is apparently gone for
good.
It has become evident that the cripto and paranoia remailers are using a
fairly heavy-duty EMP filter. It's difficult to get my test messages
posted through them unless I add a goodly amount of Lorem Ipsum.

A graphic representation of these results over time is available at
http://drsnoid.cotse.net/results.htm

More information about these results
http://drsnoid.cotse.net/gatepick.htm

Data as of 11/3/2008 BAD
austria > ***@bananasplit.info BAD
austria > ***@dizum.com BAD
austria > ***@reece.net.au
austria > ***@m2n.mixmin.net
austria > ***@eelbash.info
austria > mail2news-***@panta-rhei.eu.org
austria > Post: BAD
borked > ***@bananasplit.info
borked > ***@dizum.com
borked > ***@reece.net.au
borked > ***@m2n.mixmin.net
borked > ***@eelbash.info
borked > mail2news-***@panta-rhei.eu.org
borked > Post:
cripto > ***@bananasplit.info
cripto > ***@dizum.com
cripto > ***@reece.net.au
cripto > ***@m2n.mixmin.net
cripto > ***@eelbash.info
cripto > mail2news-***@panta-rhei.eu.org
cripto > Post:
cyberiad > ***@bananasplit.info BAD
cyberiad > ***@dizum.com BAD
cyberiad > ***@reece.net.au BAD
cyberiad > ***@m2n.mixmin.net BAD
cyberiad > ***@eelbash.info BAD
cyberiad > mail2news-***@panta-rhei.eu.org BAD
cyberiad > Post: BAD
devurandom > ***@bananasplit.info
devurandom > ***@dizum.com
devurandom > ***@reece.net.au
devurandom > ***@m2n.mixmin.net
devurandom > ***@eelbash.info
devurandom > mail2news-***@panta-rhei.eu.org
devurandom > Post: BAD
dizum > ***@bananasplit.info
dizum > ***@dizum.com
dizum > ***@reece.net.au
dizum > ***@m2n.mixmin.net
dizum > ***@eelbash.info
dizum > mail2news-***@panta-rhei.eu.org
dizum > Post:
eelbash > ***@bananasplit.info
eelbash > ***@dizum.com BAD
eelbash > ***@reece.net.au
eelbash > ***@m2n.mixmin.net
eelbash > ***@eelbash.info
eelbash > mail2news-***@panta-rhei.eu.org BAD
eelbash > Post:
frell > ***@bananasplit.info
frell > ***@dizum.com
frell > ***@reece.net.au BAD
frell > ***@m2n.mixmin.net
frell > ***@eelbash.info
frell > mail2news-***@panta-rhei.eu.org
frell > Post:
george > ***@bananasplit.info
george > ***@dizum.com
george > ***@reece.net.au
george > ***@m2n.mixmin.net
george > ***@eelbash.info
george > mail2news-***@panta-rhei.eu.org
george > Post:
gpfc > ***@bananasplit.info
gpfc > ***@dizum.com
gpfc > ***@reece.net.au
gpfc > ***@m2n.mixmin.net
gpfc > ***@eelbash.info
gpfc > mail2news-***@panta-rhei.eu.org
gpfc > Post:
hastio > ***@bananasplit.info BAD
hastio > ***@dizum.com BAD
hastio > ***@reece.net.au BAD
hastio > ***@m2n.mixmin.net BAD
hastio > ***@eelbash.info BAD
hastio > mail2news-***@panta-rhei.eu.org BAD
hastio > Post: BAD
kulin > ***@bananasplit.info
kulin > ***@dizum.com
kulin > ***@reece.net.au
kulin > ***@m2n.mixmin.net
kulin > ***@eelbash.info
kulin > mail2news-***@panta-rhei.eu.org
kulin > Post:
metacolo > ***@bananasplit.info BAD
metacolo > ***@dizum.com BAD
metacolo > ***@reece.net.au BAD
metacolo > ***@m2n.mixmin.net BAD
metacolo > ***@eelbash.info BAD
metacolo > mail2news-***@panta-rhei.eu.org BAD
metacolo > Post: BAD
panta > ***@bananasplit.info
panta > ***@dizum.com
panta > ***@reece.net.au
panta > ***@m2n.mixmin.net
panta > ***@eelbash.info
panta > mail2news-***@panta-rhei.eu.org
panta > Post:
paranoia > ***@bananasplit.info
paranoia > ***@dizum.com
paranoia > ***@reece.net.au
paranoia > ***@m2n.mixmin.net
paranoia > ***@eelbash.info BAD
paranoia > mail2news-***@panta-rhei.eu.org
paranoia > Post:
pboxmix > ***@bananasplit.info
pboxmix > ***@dizum.com
pboxmix > ***@reece.net.au
pboxmix > ***@m2n.mixmin.net
pboxmix > ***@eelbash.info
pboxmix > Post: BAD
pboxmix > mail2news-***@panta-rhei.eu.org

[Fred C Dobbs]

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[News]
112 total routes, 82 of them good. A 73.21% overall success rate.
The nightmix remailer removed from the results as it is middle.
The cyberiad, hastio, and metacolo remailers down at time of testing.
Marked as BAD.
The demon mail2news removed from the results. It is apparently gone for
good.
It has become evident that the cripto and paranoia remailers are using a
fairly heavy-duty EMP filter. It's difficult to get my test messages
posted through them unless I add a goodly amount of Lorem Ipsum.
A graphic representation of these results over time is available at
http://drsnoid.cotse.net/results.htm
More information about these results
http://drsnoid.cotse.net/gatepick.htm

Hey snoid, can you write a script to randomly insert these paths
into QS?

Of course not, QS is the the favorite remailer client of the manual
cut and paste crowd. Why automate the program? The whole object of
the remailer crowd is to control what get's posted to the internet.

[Nightmix-Admin]

Middle-status of nightmix has been disabled since one week, you can
post by "Anon-Post-To" or send mail directly to any mail2news gateway or
to any recipient.

Please note:

Special software is scanning and deleting outgoing spam- hate- and
insult mails or posting.

Michael,
Nightmix-Admin

Post by drsnoid
The nightmix remailer removed from the results as it is middle.

[Nomen Nescio]

Post by Nightmix-Admin
Special software is scanning and deleting outgoing spam- hate- and
insult mails or posting.

I call for the "filter" capstring!

[Anonymous Remailer]

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Middle-status of nightmix has been disabled since one week, you can post
by "Anon-Post-To" or send mail directly to any mail2news gateway or to
any recipient.
Special software is scanning and deleting outgoing spam- hate- and
insult mails or posting.

WTF? hate? insult? Isnt this nothing but content filtering?

And what about spam? Isn't blocking that content filtering as well?

It sounds like the operator is publishing, which means he is responsible
for everything that goes through his remailer. He could be facing a
lawsuit if just one message offends one person.

Michael,
Nightmix-Admin

Post by drsnoid
The nightmix remailer removed from the results as it is middle.

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[Reece]

Post by Nightmix-Admin
Middle-status of nightmix has been disabled since one week, you can
post by "Anon-Post-To" or send mail directly to any mail2news gateway or
to any recipient.
Special software is scanning and deleting outgoing spam- hate- and
insult mails or posting.
Michael,
Nightmix-Admin

Hi Michael,

Maybe you should reconsider the use of your "Special Software".
You could be opening the door for a shit load of problems, to
say nothing of accusations of censorship. If you're copping too
much heat as exit, go back to middle. Just a suggestion.

- --
Cheers,
Reece

[Nightmix-Admin]

Hi,

there is no reason for any panic. Neither i do copy any outgoing
mail, nor i do make any censorship, that would not have a sense.
I do using a simple text-filter in the outgoing mailbox: Words like
"asshole" or "die" or "fuck", insults and offenses like"motherf......"
and more are recognized and mail will deleted by scan-software.

The spam-filter works similary: Only great letters in body or as
example "VIAGRA" in subject.

Please note: have a look to nym alias net. Remailers are coming
and going. It's always too much spam and abuse which let it
disappear.

Nightmix is running within an AES-encrypted drive. Every incoming and
outgoing mail is full encrypted on the drive. The sense of remailers
is to give possibility for very critical and uncomfortable opinion, to
protect identity of sender.

I do not forward spam and hate-mails or hate-postings.

Michael,
Nightmix-Admin

Post by Reece
Hi Michael,
Maybe you should reconsider the use of your "Special Software".
You could be opening the door for a shit load of problems, to
say nothing of accusations of censorship. If you're copping too
much heat as exit, go back to middle. Just a suggestion.
- --
Cheers,
Reece

[Reece]

Post by Nightmix-Admin
Hi,
there is no reason for any panic. Neither i do copy any outgoing
mail, nor i do make any censorship, that would not have a sense.
I do using a simple text-filter in the outgoing mailbox: Words like
"asshole" or "die" or "fuck", insults and offenses like"motherf......"
and more are recognized and mail will deleted by scan-software.

I may be missing something here, but to me that is censorship of
the worst kind. You have no more right to delete someone else's
mail because you don't like its content than your ISP would have
if he scanned your personal email and deleted it because he
didn't approve of some of the content.

Post by Nightmix-Admin
The spam-filter works similary: Only great letters in body or as
example "VIAGRA" in subject.
Please note: have a look to nym alias net. Remailers are coming
and going. It's always too much spam and abuse which let it
disappear.

Post by Reece
Hi Michael,
Maybe you should reconsider the use of your "Special Software".
You could be opening the door for a shit load of problems, to
say nothing of accusations of censorship. If you're copping too
much heat as exit, go back to middle. Just a suggestion.
- --
Cheers,
Reece

- --
Cheers,
Reece

[Nightmix-Admin]

Remailing is a free and idealistic service. Nobody has any right to
misuse this service for to send spam or hate-mails. If the police
appears on your door, because any sender had sent hate-murder
threats against someone (through your mail-domain!) this is for me
misuse, which i do not tolerate. This is no censorship, this is
self-protect!

If you do tolerate such a misuse, than is this your attitude, not
mine. It's exactly such misuse, which lets disappear once again the
remailers.

Michael,
Nightmix-Admin

Post by Reece
I may be missing something here, but to me that is censorship of
the worst kind. You have no more right to delete someone else's
mail because you don't like its content than your ISP would have
if he scanned your personal email and deleted it because he
didn't approve of some of the content.

[Reece]

Post by Nightmix-Admin
Remailing is a free and idealistic service. Nobody has any right to
misuse this service for to send spam or hate-mails. If the police
appears on your door, because any sender had sent hate-murder
threats against someone (through your mail-domain!) this is for me
misuse, which i do not tolerate. This is no censorship, this is
self-protect!
If you do tolerate such a misuse, than is this your attitude, not
mine. It's exactly such misuse, which lets disappear once again the
remailers.

No matter how you try to justify it, you are interfering with
someone else's mail. I see no circumstances where this is
acceptable.


- --
Reece

[Nomen Nescio]

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Post by Nightmix-Admin
Remailing is a free and idealistic service. Nobody has any right to
misuse this service for to send spam or hate-mails. If the police
appears on your door, because any sender had sent hate-murder
threats against someone (through your mail-domain!) this is for me
misuse, which i do not tolerate. This is no censorship, this is
self-protect!
If you do tolerate such a misuse, than is this your attitude, not
mine. It's exactly such misuse, which lets disappear once again the
remailers.

No matter how you try to justify it, you are interfering with
someone else's mail. I see no circumstances where this is
acceptable.

For what it's worth, I agree.

[Dave U. Random]

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Post by Nightmix-Admin
Remailing is a free and idealistic service. Nobody has any right to
misuse this service for to send spam or hate-mails. If the police
appears on your door, because any sender had sent hate-murder threats
against someone (through your mail-domain!) this is for me misuse,
which i do not tolerate. This is no censorship, this is self-protect!
If you do tolerate such a misuse, than is this your attitude, not mine.
It's exactly such misuse, which lets disappear once again the
remailers.

Good points. Remailers are for people to say anonymously what they cannot
say under their own name. That does not have to include profanity, spam,
hatred and the rest of the crap that now comes out of remailers.

People can be anonymous and still write in a responsible way. If you want
to voice a political opinion go ahead; if you want to be a whistleblower,
go ahead.

But if you are going to go off the rails, don't expect to use remailers
to spout your garbage. At least that is the way it is with the nightmix
reamiler, and it should be that way with all the remailers.

No matter how you try to justify it, you are interfering with someone
else's mail. I see no circumstances where this is acceptable.
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Reece
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[Nomen Nescio]

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Remailing is a free and idealistic service. Nobody has any right to
misuse this service for to send spam or hate-mails. If the police
appears on your door, because any sender had sent hate-murder threats
against someone (through your mail-domain!) this is for me misuse, which
i do not tolerate. This is no censorship, this is self-protect!

The best way to do it is to go ahead and block whatever you think should
be blocked, but deny that you block anything.

If you do tolerate such a misuse, than is this your attitude, not mine.
It's exactly such misuse, which lets disappear once again the remailers.
Michael,
Nightmix-Admin

I may be missing something here, but to me that is censorship of the
worst kind. You have no more right to delete someone else's mail
because you don't like its content than your ISP would have if he
scanned your personal email and deleted it because he didn't approve of
some of the content.

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[Dave U. Random]

Post by Nightmix-Admin
there is no reason for any panic. Neither i do copy any outgoing
mail, nor i do make any censorship, that would not have a sense.

I think you'll find that all censorship is justified as "making sense"
by the censor. Thats kind of the point.

Post by Nightmix-Admin
I do using a simple text-filter in the outgoing mailbox: Words like
"asshole" or "die" or "fuck", insults and offenses like"motherf......"
and more are recognized and mail will deleted by scan-software.

Thats way over the top. What if someone wanted to post anonymously to
a support group because they were suicidal, you'd be dumping their
messages because they say they feel like they want to die.

Post by Nightmix-Admin
Nightmix is running within an AES-encrypted drive. Every incoming and
outgoing mail is full encrypted on the drive. The sense of remailers
is to give possibility for very critical and uncomfortable opinion, to
protect identity of sender.

Run like this if you wish, but the only supporter you seem to have in
this thread is Eelbash attempting to post anonymously. Unfortunately he
*still* hasn't fixed his posting software so all of his posts are
still completely identifiable. Seriously eelbash, its time to fix that.

I'm sorry to say it Nightmix, but you were providing a much more useful
service to the community when you were middleman. A middleman remailer will
always be more useful than a content filtering exit remailer.

Still, at least thanks for letting us know so we can add your remailer
to the starex file so our mixmaster clients never use it. The only
other remailer in that file was eelbash. Sorry to see you join such
miserable company.

Best wishes.

[George Orwell]

Post by Nightmix-Admin
I do using a simple text-filter in the outgoing mailbox: Words like
"asshole" or "die" or "fuck", insults and offenses like"motherf......"
and more are recognized and mail will deleted by scan-software.

I could post messages through my ISPs news server with my full name
attached to each post, with those words in, and would have not broken
any TOS or have any reprisal from my ISP.

Its a sad day when a remailer offers less freedom of speech than that.

If you have such strong feelings about your remailer being used to post
the word 'fuck', just go back to middle.

Hell, if I'd replied to your message through your remailer it would
have been deleted just by quoting your own message. Crazy...

Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this
non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real
reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an
di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system
Per maggiori informazioni |For more info
https://www.mixmaster.it

[drsnoid]

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Post by Nightmix-Admin
Middle-status of nightmix has been disabled since one week, you can
post by "Anon-Post-To" or send mail directly to any mail2news gateway or
to any recipient.
Special software is scanning and deleting outgoing spam- hate- and
insult mails or posting.
Michael,
Nightmix-Admin

Ok, well, all I can tell you is that during this last batch of tests I sent
a three-copy message to each of the mail2news gateways and a Post directive
with nightmix as exit and none of them suceeded. I assumed it was still
middle.

Tell me, would your filtering software deem...

Subject: huge 1 test nightmix mixmin
Body: huge 1 test nightmix mixmin

worthy of deletion for some reason?

drsnoid

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This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
is unverified. You need a valid hashcash token to post to groups other
than alt.test and alt.anonymous.messages. Visit www.panta-rhei.eu.org
for abuse and hashcash info.

[Nightmix-Admin]

That's right, yesterday more than hundred of mails get lost because
my new mail-domain had a limit for sending outgoing mails. I didn't
know this but now the problem is resolved.

Neither is nightmix middle, nor your mail was filtered.

Michael,
Nightmix-Admin

Post by drsnoid
Ok, well, all I can tell you is that during this last batch of
tests I sent a three-copy message to each of the mail2news gateways
and a Post directive with nightmix as exit and none of them
suceeded. I assumed it was still middle.
Tell me, would your filtering software deem...

[drsnoid]

Post by Nightmix-Admin
That's right, yesterday more than hundred of mails get lost because
my new mail-domain had a limit for sending outgoing mails. I didn't
know this but now the problem is resolved.
Neither is nightmix middle, nor your mail was filtered.
Michael,
Nightmix-Admin

Indeed, the test messages arrived after the delay. Successful for every
route.

drsnoid